Neat Image 5.8 - I intentionally didn't remove all noise.įor this next one I opened the raw in darktable 3.6.0.1 and used denoise (profiled):Īnd for this last one I opened the raw in Denoise AI 3.2, saved an 8-bit TIFF, and then in PS I made minor color and exposure adjustments because it was rather dark: I processed the raw file in PS/ACR (current version), saved an 8-bit TIFF, and used it for the following cases: It doesn't have any very fine detail such as hair or feathers so more NR can be applied than what one could probably get away with otherwise. So, this is certainly a very noisy photo to work on. Your raw file is from a Panasonic DMC-FZ300 with a 1/2.3" 12mp sensor, ISO 6400. On this afternoon I was a bit bored so I played with your raw file. Topaz severe noise was used raw file > Link If you would provide the raw file also then it would be fun for all of us to play around with it. Please give the details of the Topaz settings you used. I only use the Topaz programs on the occasional problem file. If and only if I decide I want to use Denoise AI or Sharpen AI then I send a TIFF file created by LR with all my adjustments included. ![]() I use LR to adjust the raw file to be just what I want. And there are many other reasons after this primary. I don't know what kind of camera profile DCRAW uses, but it has to be some generic "one size fits all" profile. Note that Topaz does not allow you to specify a camera profile. That's not a bad program, just not as good as Adobe and other editors provide.Ī primary reason to use Adobe Camera Raw, Lightroom, or other dedicated raw converts is the availability of camera profiles. Topaz and others do not write their own raw converter code. ![]() You are always much better off converting raw to RGB yourself using a dedicated raw converter, and feeding that RGB to the utility. They all convert first and then do their thing on 8 or 16 bit RGB files. No utility actually operates on raw data. That's like eating dinner at Holiday Inn, which is in the hotel business, not the restaurant business. It continues to baffle me why Topaz (and many other utilities) spends so much effort on raw conversion, and even more baffling are users who actually feed raw files to these programs. Topaz Denoise AI 3.1.2, Severe Noise model, Auto mode. I also noticed that ON1 seem to have under-exposed the image to reduce starting noise levels, so it's no longer ISO 6400 and more like ISO 3200 could be my imagination. Surely could be even better if I were working from the original RAW or TIFF. That's what I get from your small low resolution JPEG screen captured image, so I still wonder what version of Topaz Denoise you are using and what model you applied. I am finding it rather surprising to be honest.įor those folks indicating that the wrong settings were used here's another test using a raw file shot exclusively to test noise reduction at 6400 ISO. ![]() Not to denigrate ON1, but what I see you posted out of Topaz DAI is nowhere near what I regularly get out of it. is there a conspiracy to purposely make Topaz DAI look bad compared to ON1? Yours is one of several that I've seen recently showing result out of Topaz DAI that is way worse than what I would have normally expected with proper selection of the appropriate denoise model and level. Otherwise companies like Luminar and ON1 and a few others will start including better tools and Topaz may be left chasing their tails. I will see if they changed anything but it would be really awesome to just combine Sharpen and Denoise into one program. ![]() Then On1 announced NoNoise and hence the update today. I also think Topaz was going to try and reduce the sharpening from Denoise as it was probably hurting Sharpen AI's sales. It would be really nice to do everything in one software and not have to use Denoise / Sharpen / PS / LR etc. Well, it's the first go from ON1 and I think they did a good job and it has a lot more options especially integrated into ON1. I filled out a survey for ON1 also a few weeks back and I commented that that would be an important part of my decision if I were to use a denoise software. But trying to smooth out that clock pic is just not a realistic example of 99% of my shots. Nonoise softened the whole photo, unless I used a mask and then with some work I could denoise it properly. I pretty much exclusively use the AI Clear option of Topaz as I find it doesn't ruin the sharpness of the birds or wildlife. I had high hopes for ON1's new NoNoise, but I was not impressed at the softness of the birds feathers when moving the slider up to smooth the little bit of noise in the background. I haven't tested with extreme noise like the examples above, but I did test with some wildlife shots like birds.
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